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On Why Koreans Are Angry With Japan and Why Outsiders With A Lack of Understanding Need to Stop Talking.
I hope you don’t take this wrong way but I think that… well how can I say this .. I think a lot of the problems in Asian diplomatics is one thing one can argue that a lot of it started because Japan didn’t deal enough with its WW2 history and in generally agression against its neighbours.
But this is NO EXCUSE for violence against the people of that country living TODAY.
Yeah, like far right Japanese people attacking Koreans, or far right Japanese people protesting and rioting against Korean celebrities who are active in Japan. Or far right Japanese people utilizing imperialistic rhetoric to aggress upon Koreans.
These people are not responsible for that and don’t deserve the hate they are getting.
Yeah, like Japanese politicians denying that they colonized Korea and parts of China, murdered people, tried to annihilate the history, culture, and language of the people they colonized, nah, they don’t deserve hate for that. Or Japanese people calling women who were taken into sexual slavery whores and prostitutes even though there are women who had to endure that who are alive today and still are demanding apologies.
I have been in Japan three years on a school with many Chinese and Koreans and I know that both countries have issues with Japan but they never look onto their own problems equally. I’m the first to criticize Japan you have no idea how frustrating it can be to live in Japan as a German sometimes.
Oh god it’s one of those Asian countries are racist against white people people.
But China just because it suffered in WW2 is a country that is in any position to point fingures. The crimes that the political does and did unto their own people. The unnecessary claiming of islands (I’m not talking only about the island dispute with Japan I’m talking about the islands they claim on the Vietnamese cause in Indonesia provoking without reason).
These are two totally different issues. We’re talking about a Japanese far right campaign which paints an issue of colonialism and imperialism as a project of integration and of bettering these countries. We’re talking about the honoring of convicted war criminals. You can say a lot about a lot of European countries with regards to colonialism of Africa, Asia, and the Americas but that doesn’t change the fact that many of them can still be angry about Nazi Germany and the atrocities committed in World War 2.
I know the South Koreans tend to side with the Chinese because they have their onw island dispute with Japan (which is a completely different case the Dokdo/Takeshima confilict cannot be compared to the Senkaku island conflict), but that is not the right way to deal with this.
We tend to side with the Chinese on this issue because we were also victims of Japanese colonialism and imperialism.
South Korea is also is not as innocent as it likes itself to presend I know you probably don’t like to hear this as a South Korean but it saddens me greatly that two countries who could get along so well and stand together hate each other with such a passion sometimes.
Look, one sid killed our ancestors, exploited us economically, tried to destroy our culture, language, heritage, and history. Koreans, on 8i89the other hand, are angry because of historical revisionism which denies this happened, honoring of war criminals, imperialistic rhetoric over Korean land, and far right aggression from the Japanese.
But you know, it’s an equal we hate you, you hate us type of thing.
This hate is not the hate of this generation. Yes many Japanese school schildren don’t learn about the war crimes adequately but that doesn’t make them bad people. There should be no reason for this generation of Koreans to hate this generations of Japanese There grandparents might have fought each other but why can’t this generation not overcome that.
Except that these people you’re saying aren’t bad people are the same people who are not confessing ignorance of these crimes, but denying they happened. You know how many Japanese people believe the comfort women weren’t taken against their will but were whores and prostitutes? You know how many Japanese people believe it’s right to honor convicted war criminals in the Yasukuni shrine?
There are over 1000 convicted war criminals in Yasukuni shrine, 14 being Class A war criminals convicted of crimes against peace. But we’re supposed to forgive and forget?
Do you know how ignorant you sound? If Germans paid honors to nazi soldiers including 20 of the highest ranking nazi generals do you think it wouldn’t cause an outrage amongst Europeans and people all across the world? And yet if the Japanese do it it’s fine and dandy?
Too often I have heard from both Chinese and South Koreans that they hate Japanese people (but they come to study there anyways kinda strange, eh? ) . But these people have not done anything to you the wide mass of people is not interested in politics (which is a problem) nor understand it (another problem) which is the same in South Korea and don’t you deny it.
Have you been to Korea? We’re one of the most political countries in the world when it comes to citizen interest in politics. Also, this is an issue which transcends politics and enters the realm of history.
I hate how countries that have so much to show each other and so much in common… how can people be so aggresive against each other still.
BECAUSE THE JAPANESE REFUSE TO APOLOGIZE. BECAUSE THE JAPANESE PEOPLE STILL EMPLOY IMPERIALISTIC RHETORIC. BECAUSE THE JAPANESE PEOPLE STILL HONOR WAR CRIMINALS. BECAUSE THE JAPANESE FAR RIGHT STILL ARE VIOLENT AGAINST CHINESE AND KOREAN PEOPLE.
The people in China who attack Japanese citizens, have they suffered in WW2? No, they just hate because their fathers and grandfathers and the government tell them Japanese are despicable people.
Have you kept up in recent news? do you know who was elected to prime minister of Japan? Do you know what he did and what he’s said? Have you kept up with the resurgence of the far right in Japan?
Why do many young South Koreans dislike Japanese? Have they personally experienced anything bad in Japan or done to them by Japanese people? No.
Yes. It’s called imperialistic aggression.
Let me tell you a story. The Japanese employed sexual slavery as a tactic during the war, these women were called the comfort women. There are a few of the women who endured and survived this atrocity still alive in Korea today.
You know what the Japanese far right calls them? Whores. Prostitutes.
I volunteer with the halmunees. The union I’m a member of collects money every month to donate to the halmunees.
The victims of Japanese aggression still are alive today. And you’re asking me why I’m angry? You’re asking my why I’m angry when Japanese people come to these protests for an apology to these women and to admit their crimes to call these women whores and prostitutes?
The Japanese youth sees this reactions and asks themselves “why are they reacting like this, why don’t they like us” and their parents will say “well because they are chinese” or “well because they are south koreans”and so the cicle continues and continues.
So why aren’t you criticizing the Japanese government for teaching historical revisionism and denying these atrocities were committed?
No, you’ve decided to go the way of the imperialist and attack those who suffer fro imperialistic aggression.
You have to seperate the past from the present and the goverment from the people but many Asian nations are so proud and that’s what standing in their way most of the time.
Wow, go fuck yourself.
This anti Japanese propaganda by China is not gonna help anyone. Least the Chinese.
“anti-Japanese propaganda”. You know what we call this in reality? History lessons.
Will South Korea ever accept any apology by Japan? I think not because they didn’t in the past.
Excuse me? Has Japan ever apologized without turning around and then changing their word?
Neither will China, the argument will always be “because it’s not a genuine apology”Japan hearing that will be snubbed and stop from ever aplogizing again
This is where you’re showing your lack of knowledge in Asian politics. Let me explain what has happened for the past 60 years or so. First, the Japanese will apologize. And then the regime will change. And then they’ll deny their apology.
Also, while apologizing they teach history saying that it never happened. Japanese history textbooks refer to the colonization of Korea as the Japanese “helping” Koreans to modernize. It makes it seem as if the Japanese were doing us a favor.
This can go on and on and on or the nations could finally make a clear cut and start over again because the young South Korean’s, Chinese and Japanese they did not suffer during WW2 nor where they responsible. Why can’t this generation start on neutral grounds? It makes me incredible sad but it also makes me happy that we managed to do this in Europe and not only because Germany atoned but also because our neighbours decided to accept our apologies and give the new generation a new chance. That was the most important part.
No, that’s because Germany actually apologized. If Germany had a neo-nazi party following world war 2 till today, do you think the countries while teaching their children that the holocaust never happened do you think the neighboring countries would have accepted this apology.
Ok I just got into a long rant there. I just have a lot of feelz about the situation in Asia. A lot of my friends are both South Korean or Japanese and yeah :( It makes me sad that nations that could be such good friends are not and all because the past drags the new generations down
Oh, you have feelz~.
Great I have a historical anger which isn’t satisfied by your fucking bullshit get the fuck out.